Wilson Theatre

27 Lee Avenue,
Brooklyn, NY 11211

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Bway
Bway on April 20, 2006 at 5:41 am

The only information I can find about an el or subway line going somewhat close to the area of that theater was the “proposed” BMT el “crosstown line” el that was never built. It later was built in the form of the IND Crosstown subway (the current G line, underground), but that was built further east under Union Ave. I can find no evidence of any subway line or el ever built on or near Lee Ave. That doesn’t mean it didn’t, but if it did, it didn’t last long, and I am skeptical there ever was an el there.

Bway
Bway on April 20, 2006 at 3:33 am

Lost Memory, I know a lot about the subway system, and it’s history, and I too am perplexed about this elevated line in that area. The Broadway Elevated was built in 1888. That replaced the original old mainline Brooklyn el that was long gone at the turn of the century already. The original mainline ran from downtown Brooklyn, up Park Ave, to Grand across to Lexington Ave, up to Broadway (near the current Gates Ave station), and then towards Broadway Junction and Fulton St as it does now. However, I never seen any evidence that there was an early el near Lee Ave in this location, but will look more into it.

louieb
louieb on April 10, 2006 at 4:31 pm

What was that building that was on Broadway and Bedford Ave where the crosstown bus turned left off of Broadway and made it’s stop at the corner. Was that a Insurance Company. right before the underpass of the Williamsburgh Bridge going towards Greenpoint. The building had dark blinds. As a Kid it was scary. There was a luncheonette/diner type place directly across the street. Anniegirl.
posted by louieb on Apr 10, 2006

cjdv
cjdv on April 10, 2006 at 6:37 am

Corse Payton’s story sounds very much like the near-by Bedford Avenue Theatre (aka Empire). Opened on October 5, 1891, it lost its auditorium when the Williamsburg Bridge was built. The front portion still survives at 101 So. 6th Street. Check it out, Broadway and Lost Memory, when you are in the neighborhood

cjdv
cjdv on April 10, 2006 at 4:53 am

According to the Brooklyn Eagle, Berger & Price “renovated the old building’s interior.” That was my source of information.
Payton’s opened briefly as the Grand Opera House became the Lee Avenue Academy of Music and for a few months, in 1895, the “Phoebus Theatre”. Many famous actors of the period appeared there. However, also according to the Eagle, “when the Amphion theatre opened,the Lee Avenue Academy was turned into a stock theatre”.
It was taken over by Corse Payton who acted in nearly all his plays along with his wife Etta Reed.
An article in The Chat Newspaper, Dec. 26,1914, states the Payton’s Lee Avenue theatre “has been completely renovated” and “is in excellent condition”. It will “make movie picture seeing a pleasure, entertainment galore, and presented in an atmosphere of refinement.” It is now a movie house under the management of a man listed only as “Kemble” in the newspaper.
An article “Payton’s Theatre is being Razed” appears in the Brooklyn Eagle on June 4, 1918. However not for a subway. The article states “there will be constructed a three-story building”, “two stories and a moving picture theatre on the ground floor”. Perhaps this was changed.

Asbag
Asbag on April 10, 2006 at 3:44 am

Thanks, Lost Memory….hmmmm for sure I don’t remember anything resembling a theater at that location.
asbag

Asbag
Asbag on April 10, 2006 at 3:37 am

Anniegirl…that picture on local.live.com is the one and same building that was the Roebling i.e. Wilson Theater. In speaking to the members of the Synogogue they knew that it was a Theater before but did not know the name of it. They have had to level the floor because it had a slope to it and the ark in the back is in a semi-circle area.
The Synogogue members, the religious book store and the 88 year old resident of Williamsburg that I spoke to were all from the Hassidic community. I really did not think they would take much interest in the history of the community vis a viz such things as movie theaters but boy was I wrong. They all asked me to get back to them (which I did) to let them what the theater name was.
Now the Payton’s Lee Avenue theater has piqued my interest. Was it used for Vaudeville, Opera or Drama? Who knows, maybe Hymies Baby Carriages was the site of the Lee’s.
asbag

Bway
Bway on April 9, 2006 at 2:40 pm

Warren, what year was that Payton’s Lee Ave Theater demolished for a subway line?

louieb
louieb on April 9, 2006 at 2:17 pm

astyanax. I remember Flaum’s me and my girlfriend Sara Gruher used to go and get Whitefish for her Mom and We always got pickles. Delish. Yes it is still there can u imagine. But the strong smell of fish used to make me sick. Anniegirl
posted by louieb on Apr 9, 2006

louieb
louieb on April 9, 2006 at 2:10 pm

does anyone have a outside picture of the front of the Wilson Theater. Let me know and how to get it if you do have a pic. And I found out that the Baby Carriage store next to the theater was called HYMIE’S Carriage and Bicycle Store. Hi ASBAG I guess you are not losing your mind. For all th know I went on Live.local.com and I took a pic of the I guess Wilson Theater. on Lee Ave and Roebeling St, I hope is was called the Roebeling and Wilson. Please go on the site and plug in the address and see if it is the same building we are all talking about? anniegirl.
posted by louieb on Apr 7th 2006

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on April 7, 2006 at 9:45 am

Look at the bulging crowds in the side boxes! That had to present some kind of fire code violation – if there was, in fact, any sort of fire code in place at the time – not to mention a strength test for the load bearing trusses!

Asbag
Asbag on April 7, 2006 at 8:33 am

Some theater Warren. That was class.
asbag

Asbag
Asbag on April 7, 2006 at 6:45 am

Thank you cdjv. There are probably two dozen people who thought that the theater was a figment of my imagination. In the process of trying to uncover the mystery of the Wilson Theater all of you have brought to light many other Theaters that I did not know existed in that section of Brooklyn. This interest in old movie theaters spawns something bigger than the theaters themselves. It has helped me revisit all the food stores, peddlers, retailers, buses and trolleys of my youth in an affectionate way. I had to leave the New York area because of a job offer in 1996 and I am doing all this from St. Louis, Mo.
The Internet has opened up a world of nostalgia in which I can view web cams of street corners, aerial views of buildings and neighborhoods and be able to get phone numbers of individuals who could fill me in on the history of an area. Yesterday I spoke to a 25 year old who wanted to hear more about the Williamsburg he is living in from the perspective of someone who lived here in the 40’s. Then I spoke to an 88 year old man who lived in the same apartment he was born in in 1917. He was most anxious that I get back to him when I got more information on the Wilson.
Anyway, I don’t want to get too wordy. But thanks for all your help.
asbag

cjdv
cjdv on April 7, 2006 at 5:51 am

No longer posting. Reluctant to get involved. Finally decided to do so. The Wilson opened circa 1919 as the Roebling. You will find it listed under that time until 1931, after which it became the Wilson (closing around 1939). Th theatre is also listed as closed briefly in 1930. Seating is usually given as 966 but sometimes 1,000.
At 31 Lee Ave. was Rev. J. Hyatt’s church which became the Grand Opera House in 1881 (not to be confused with the theatre in downtown Brooklyn). It was also known briefly as the Lee Avenue Academy of Music and the Phoebus. From 1900-1914 it was Corse Payton’s. The seating capacity usually given as 2,000.

Asbag
Asbag on April 7, 2006 at 4:33 am

Lost Memory…that is great. I wonder how they got the Wilson name. However, perhaps googling 1925 might turn up something. I have spoken to the current owners of the building and they knew it was a Theater but didn’t know the name. I spoke to a Williamsburg resident who has lived in the same apartment since 1917 and he remembers the Theater but not the name. Thanks for you help.
asbag

Asbag
Asbag on April 7, 2006 at 4:12 am

Astyanax…I went to PS 16 beginning in Kindergarten in 1945. The Wilson was boarded up and posters for films playing at other Theaters were placed on the boards. We all now agree that the building is 27 Lee Ave., everyone agrees that it was a Theater but as yet no one can confirm that it was called the Wilson. And yes, I do love a good sour pickle. Havemeyer St. had great pickle vendors and nothing tastes as good as when they come out of a barrel.
asbag

Astyanax
Astyanax on April 6, 2006 at 11:12 am

I’m familiar with the location, but by the time I went to PS 16. the Wilson had been long gone. For an inexpensive snack, we all went into Flaum’s pickle works on Lee Ave. After all these years the pickle works is still on the avenue, a neighborhood institution that has endured.

Asbag
Asbag on April 6, 2006 at 10:30 am

Lost Memory….I tried to call the Synogogue but got no answer. I called a book store down the block and the proprietor who is a history buff said that the Synogogue definitely was a theater because they had to straighten out the floor as it had a definite slope. He gave me the name of a resident who has lived near there in the same apartment since 1917. When speaking to him he told me that there was definitely a theater there but he did not remember the name. He did not think it was called the Wilson. Who knows? I remember that name and it was a block away from Wilson St. I will look up Newspaper archives next. Thanks for responding.
asbag

Asbag
Asbag on April 6, 2006 at 9:17 am

Lost Memory…..thanks for the update. Perhaps I can call the phone number and see if the current owners know anything about the building. When I was in Public School on Wilson Avenue I used to walk over to the Theater which still had a Marquee that said Wilson. But it was boarded up and someone would put movie posters up for films playing at the other Theaters in Williamsburg. I never gave much thought to the Theater then but now it has become a challenge to get the history of this Theater. If it was closed and boarded up in 1945 or earlier it could have been a Vaudeville Theater like the Williamsburg. However, every Theater in Williamsburg has someone that remembers either attending or knowing something about the Theater with the exception of the Wilson. I guess if there is a resident who attended the Theater in the Thirties they would have to be in their 70’s or 80’s today and most likely would not be on this site. Historical records from all the library sites I have visited in the New York & Brooklyn area gave no clue to what that Theater was. At least you have furnished me with an address. If you go on local.live.com and view the “Birds Eye” aerial view of the site you can see a building the is triangular in the front but rounded in the back which looks like it was some sort of stage. Anyway, any information you can furnish will be greatly appreciated. Are you a Brooklynite?
asbag

Asbag
Asbag on April 5, 2006 at 10:46 am

Lost Memory…do you know anything about this theater. I have been searching for months trying to get some information. At first I was doubting that the theater even existed but not that you mention it is a tax exempt Church I feel confident that it was a movie theater at one time. After all that is the way all movie theaters go…they become religious institutions. If anyone get help me out with some description I would appreciate it.
asbag