Odeon Luxe London Leicester Square

26 Leicester Square,
London, WC2H 7LQ

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FanaticalAboutOdeon
FanaticalAboutOdeon on November 9, 2017 at 11:30 pm

CF100, Your mention of the YouTube items prompted me to watch them again, not having seen them for some time, and they’re fascinating – especially the creation of the double-height foyer spaces and additional glazing. Rather like watching a beloved friend undergoing a major operation!

In 1998 the Odeon closed from 13th April to 4th August for the works – nearly four months.

I could describe the foyer prior to 1998 in detail if you would be interested – could even cure insomnia for some on this site as well!!

Lionel, I’m flattered that my site name should be so bold and striking in your response! Perhaps ought to have been blue though!

I too miss the Odeon Marble Arch in its first configuration. I was at the premiere of “Hello Dolly!” in the late ‘60s and a sustained round of applause erupted at the end of the spectacular and colourful musical as the cast list rolled and the enormous curtains billowed to a close. Also saw the '89 restoration screening of “Lawrence” there after Rank had surprisingly replaced the D150 screen with one which was less deeply curved. As you may well know, David Lean watched the restored film first in 70mm at Odeon Leicester Square and soon saw it again at Marble Arch before it opened to the public. He thought it looked brilliant at OLS but, seeing it again so soon afterwards at M/Arch, felt the desert horizons to be unacceptedly distorted and wanted the theatres switched. OLS’s commitments precluded this so Rank’s investment, so late in the day for regular 70mm., was something of a very expensive compromise. I believe other, reissued 70mm. films (including the blown up “Gone With The Wind”) followed “Lawrence” in something of a big screen season which was, regrettably, not very widely advertised.

Minutiae – As the only “stage” lighting at the 1960s Odeon Marble Arch was a three colour circuit trough with red, green and amber reflector lamps immediately above the curtain line, only the upper folds were effectively lit with the bulk of the plain fawn curtains being left dark. Rank Leisure Services Chairman, John Davis, noticed the relative gloom and requested something be done to brighten things up. The result was six Rank Strand pattern 324 2k Fresnel spot lanterns being obtained from a “recently closed Odeon” with three being mounted on each of two ledges built onto the sides of the balcony front. These lanterns were filtered with colour gels matching the lamps around the edge of the ceiling and their operation coordinated with the result that the curtains glowed beautifully thereafter.

My own best 70mm. presentation ever was “Ryan’s Daughter” at the 1962 Empire Leicester Square.

Lionel
Lionel on November 9, 2017 at 7:28 pm

I love the OLS but when it comes to 70mm, I miss Marble Arch. I was lucky enough to see the Lawrence of Arabia ‘89 edition there, among others. Look at this great picture from Thomas Hauerslev here: http://www.in70mm.com/news/2015/london/gallery/pages/06_000002000017.htm

Lawrence in 70mm at Marble Arch has been one of my most thrilling cinematographic experiences ever. The goose bump megadose. The only thing that makes me sad is that we shall never have films like that, and theatres like that, anymore .

The last film I saw at Marble Arch was Branagh’s Peter’s Friends in February 1993. The 35mm 1.85 image looked a bit lost in the middle of that big screen. Yup, I’ve always loved Kenneth Branagh (even saw him on stage at the Garrick last year in The Entertainer) but how does he perform as Hercule Poirot ? To me, the best Poirot ever was Peter Ustinov, especially in Evil Under The Sun (1981). I watched again the DVD recently and they all looked so great: Ustinov, Diana Rigg, Maggie Smith.

CF100
CF100 on November 9, 2017 at 7:13 pm

Lionel: I’ve noticed some “undocumented” features of the comment system before. The lack of any feature to edit existing posts is quite frustrating too! :–(

Still, this site is a fantastic resource.

I saw the IMDb “Dolby Atmos” listing. dts 70mm makes sense, and I see it was used for the “Dunkirk” 70mm prints, but I have no idea what equipment is still available (and working!) for 70mm engagements, and of course, 70mm prints carrying dts timecode don’t have 6-track analogue tracks. I assume the OLS is equipped for DTS 70mm, but considering the stories of old projectors being overhauled for various 70mm screenings…

In the long term, I imagine the digital sound formats on film will suffer from being obsolete proprietary systems—if film is still being projected in, say, 20 years!

Lionel
Lionel on November 9, 2017 at 5:59 pm

I must have mistyped something in my previous message because FanaticalAboutOdeon appears in big red letters instead of normal characters preceded with the “at” sign, as I wanted.

@CF100
IMDB mentions Dolby Atmos for the sound technology, but I guess the 70mm engagement was with DTS.

CF100
CF100 on November 9, 2017 at 1:11 am

Lionel: Oh! :–) I thought it was an obscure reference to Dolby Tone or similar (albeit Dolby Tone isn’t at 3756.5Hz!)

Talking of which, I assume the 70mm presentation uses a dts 70mm soundtrack?

Lionel
Lionel on November 8, 2017 at 7:20 pm

@CF100 I was just joking about that sound frequency, as we’re all maniacs expecting perfection on this site ;)

FanaticalAboutOdeon

Thanks for the feedback. I’m not surprised, as everything I saw at the OLS always looked and sounded top notch.

CF100
CF100 on November 8, 2017 at 12:09 am

Thanks FanaticalAboutOdeon, I hadn’t realised the entrances had been changed for the rear stalls with the wall added.

(Albeit my memory of the foyer before the 1998 refurbishment is non-existent.)

The 1998 refurbishment is the subject of a 3-part series (by Fred Fullerton) on YouTube:

Part 1

The “bare” (i.e. mostly steel structure!) upper foyer can be seen in in Part 3, the following link goes directly to that section of the video:

Part 3 – time starts at foyer

FanaticalAboutOdeon
FanaticalAboutOdeon on November 7, 2017 at 7:15 pm

CF100, Closure for the 1998 refurbishment/rebranding/reconstruction of façade was much shorter, somewhere in the region of two to three months if memory serves. Biggest job then was the creation of the double-height foyer with its additional glazing and raising of the circle lounge ceiling with its new fibre optic lighting coves. In the auditorium, changes were more superficial apart from further fibre optic installation in the existing coves and the halos around the replicated golden ladies. A wider, more central stalls entrance replaced the former sales kiosk and separate entrances to each side of it. The new stalls entrance necessitated the provision of a carpeted baffle wall to prevent light and sound penetrating the stalls from the foyer and Square.

I will shortly be able to more accurately define the 1998 closure period which was followed by the run of “Armageddon” in blow-up 70mm.

CF100
CF100 on November 6, 2017 at 4:20 pm

FanaticalAboutOdeon: Thank you for the update. 9 months?! How many months of work were required for the late 90s refurbishment?

Wonder if the “Studios” will remain open during this period (albeit they may well have to be closed at some point to allow the foyers to be “joined together.”)

Last time I looked, the replacement building for the OWE had yet to make it above ground level and the hotel is not due to open until 2019.

FanaticalAboutOdeon
FanaticalAboutOdeon on November 6, 2017 at 11:53 am

Lionel, A friend of mine saw “Murder on the Orient Express” in 70mm. at OLS last night and tells me it looked and sounded “…absolutely superb”.

FanaticalAboutOdeon
FanaticalAboutOdeon on November 6, 2017 at 11:50 am

Odeon Leicester Square will close after Christmas for nine months to enable major works.

CF100
CF100 on November 6, 2017 at 9:16 am

Lionel: 3756.5Hz? Huh?

Lionel
Lionel on November 5, 2017 at 4:58 pm

I was planning to come to London in November to see Branagh’s Murder in 70mm at the OLS but am eventually not able to travel now. Any feedback of the experience is welcome here. Was the picture steady? Well lit? Screen masking correctly set up? Sound frequency of 3756 Hz and a half reproduced at perfect level?

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on November 3, 2017 at 8:49 pm

Here’s to the next 80 years…

Ken Roe
Ken Roe on November 3, 2017 at 4:35 pm

Happy Belated 80th Birthday to the Odeon Leicester Square yesterday.

Bruce Campbell
Bruce Campbell on November 1, 2017 at 9:49 am

probably in the new year after Star Wars?

CF100
CF100 on October 31, 2017 at 8:41 pm

Permission granted for 17/07604/FULL; it took a few days for the Westminster Council planning database to be updated. Wonder when the work will commence…

CF100
CF100 on October 27, 2017 at 10:22 am

…or not, although the “target date” is given as “26th October 2017”…

CF100
CF100 on October 25, 2017 at 10:25 pm

Sub-committee report from the 24th October is available in the main planning application documents, no objections, Draft Decision Notice is for permission to be granted. Expect approval to be issued tomorrow.

CF100
CF100 on October 7, 2017 at 11:44 pm

FanaticalAboutOdeon: Bring back “The First Choice”!

Regarding the separate 3D screen, as I mentioned in a previous post, the proposed facade has a large Dolby “Double-D” logo prominently positioned above the balcony, suggesting the refurbished cinema will feature a Dolby Cinema installation.

Dolby’s 3D system uses spectral filtering (i.e. slightly different red/green/blue wavelength for each eye, with the wavelength for the other eye filtered by the 3D glasses) rather than polarisation, thus obviating the need for the (polarisation preserving) silver screen.

(I hadn’t thought about this until I replied to your post…!)

FanaticalAboutOdeon
FanaticalAboutOdeon on October 7, 2017 at 2:01 pm

OLS is unique in having both white and silver screens to provide the best possible screen surface for both 2D and 3D product. The screen speakers are mounted on wheeled trolleys and are thus common to both screens; the 2D screen frame can be wheeled to the rear stage area when the 3D screen and frame are in use as these are both stored in the theatre’s fly tower above the stage and are simply lowered into position when required. Any movement of the screen forward of the proscenium arch would, of course, preclude the facility.

FanaticalAboutOdeon
FanaticalAboutOdeon on October 7, 2017 at 1:45 pm

The legend, “FANATICAL ABOUT FILM” has been removed from the canopy fascia of Odeon Leicester Square and both the wording and its somewhat skeletal font – one of two created/adopted as part of the 1998 rebranding of the circuit – is being replaced by a less formal looking style of lettering in physical and online advertising, letterheads and buildings signage. This was an aspect of the recent “refreshing” of the circuit’s branding.

CF100
CF100 on September 11, 2017 at 6:16 pm

According to Vue’s website, Vue Westfield London and Vue Westfield Stratford City are the 1st and 3rd highest grossing cinemas in the UK. I wonder what’s the 2nd—is there a list somewhere?

They are both a few miles from the edge of Central London and can easily be accessed by tube from there. Vue Westfield London is probably about as close to the West End as a 20 screen “megaplex” will ever be built!

They are both listed as flagship sites by Vue but IMO Vue Westfield London is very much a run of the mill multiplex.

Zappomatic
Zappomatic on September 9, 2017 at 9:36 pm

moviebuff82: No. Not sure what the busiest in Europe is but in the UK the highest grossing cinema is Vue Westfield London.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on September 9, 2017 at 8:58 pm

Is this theater the busiest in Europe as the AMC Empire 25 is the busiest in North America?