Loew's Commodore Theater

105 2nd Avenue,
New York, NY 10003

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CelluloidHero2
CelluloidHero2 on September 15, 2005 at 3:09 pm

Great! Glad to see the name change!

CelluloidHero2
CelluloidHero2 on September 15, 2005 at 5:09 am

As a former Loew’s theater you should be able search for this theater when you click on the previos names button, however it does not show up in the listing of Loew’s and former Loew’s theaters. I knew this theater as the Loew’s Commodore. Remember seeing the Three Stooges live on stage as they toured promoting their new movie which I believe was Have Rocket, Will Travel.

bamtino
bamtino on September 15, 2005 at 1:06 am

Architect of this theatre was Harrison G. Wiseman.

bamtino
bamtino on August 30, 2005 at 12:57 pm

The theatre first opened on 9/2/1926. It was a movie theatre.
It was said to have been built at a cost of $2 million and to have contained seating for 4000. It was part of the Mayer & Schneider circuit.

roots66
roots66 on June 29, 2005 at 5:41 pm

A few queries for anyone who might know:

Was the Commodore purpose-built as a legit theater, movie house, or both? Approximately when did Loew’s take it over? And when did it become the Village Theater?

shoeshoe14
shoeshoe14 on June 29, 2005 at 2:35 pm

Well, all that I wrote was from the book. Maybe they were making hunches as to what would happen.

As to this comment: “I never understood how Landmarks allowed it to be demolished completely after they wouldn’t allow Cineplex to gut the interior.”

That’s NYC for you. Sleeping with the zoning commission. Say you’ll bring this many (low-wage) jobs to the community and the “promise” of affordable housing (but for whom?) and zoning relaxes to the almighty dollar.

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on June 29, 2005 at 11:15 am

Just another comment re: filming inside the Fillmore East. Concert footage for the 1971 Joe Cocker documentary, ‘Mad Dogs & Englishmen" were also filmed at the Fillmore East.

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on June 29, 2005 at 7:36 am

Shoeshoe14-

A few corrections on your history: The Commodore/Fillmore/Saint in fact was never multiplexed after the Saint closed. After The Saint’s closing the building stood empty for at least seven years or so. I know this for a fact because I was in the building in early 1995 not to long before demolition and the interior was still constructed as The Saint. I can tell you that there were definitley no multiplex theaters in there. If I recall correctly, theater multiplexing was an idea for the building post-Saint that never happened.

Also, “The Last Days of the Fillmore” documentary and LP you mentioned was made at, and only about the Fillmore West in San Francisco during the last concerts NOT the Fillmore East. One of the only times, if not the ONLY time camera crews came into the Fillmore East for a program or documentary of any kind was on September 23, 1970 to shoot a special for public television called ‘Welcome to the Fillmore’. It was videotaped and included performances from Van Morrison, The Byrds, Albert King, Sha Na Na, The Elvin Bishop Group and others. It also included some documentary footage of a regular day around the theater. This show was broadcast the day The Fillmore East closed on Sunday June 27, 1971 (the 34th anniversary just passed a few days ago).

dave-bronx™
dave-bronx™ on June 29, 2005 at 7:31 am

At the time that the Village East up the street was undergoing conversion to a 7-plex, around 1990, Cineplex had taken a lease on the Commodore/Village/Fillmore/Saint, with the intention of gutting it out and making a plex inside of the shell. The schizophrenic Landmarks Commission would not let them do it, and they got out of the lease. As far as I know, nothing was ever done with it after that, it just sat vacant for years. I never understood how Landmarks allowed it to be demolished completely after they wouldn’t allow Cineplex to gut the interior.

The Saint was a “members only” hi-tech club, requiring a $250 fee for annual membership, and unlike Studio 54, was virtually unknown to the general public. To the members, though, and those taken there by members, it was the best dance club in the world. There were periodic live performances by The Pointer Sisters, Sylvester and other disco performers of the time. It lasted from 1980 to about 1987. From Labor Day to Memorial Day it was only open Saturday and Sunday nights, opening at about 11:00 pm (but didn’t really get rolling til about 2) and usually closed about 11:00 am, and closed completely for the summer. The end came when the membership was seriously depleted by the AIDS situation, and rather than let it go “bridge & tunnel” the owners just shut it down.

shoeshoe14
shoeshoe14 on June 28, 2005 at 8:40 am

Well, all this information came from the book i mentioned in that long post. He seemed to know a lot about it before he bought it. I suggest buying the book and reading it for yourself. The index is quite thorough and you can buy it used on amazon for $5 or so.

RobertR
RobertR on June 28, 2005 at 6:32 am

Of note about the Saint. It was the largest gay disco in New York at the height of gay liberation, pre-AIDS. It closed when AIDS hit hard but they did keep the place open 24 hours one night a week. The Saint was gutted and turned into an 8-theater complex, known as the Loew’s Octoplex
shoeshoe14 on Jun 28, 2005 at 1:35am

I don’t remember Loews ever re-opening as a plex? I thought the first plex in the East Village was the City Cinemas Village East?

shoeshoe14
shoeshoe14 on June 28, 2005 at 1:35 am

More info about the Fillmore and its incarnations from the book “Bill Graham Presents”. Chapter 11 details his decision to close the Fillmore East but gives a good history of the place. Of note is after he sold his rights to the theater, he also sold the building. He regretted it in the book but if he had it until 1991 when he died, who knows what would have happened.
The Loew’s Commodore East held 2,400.

When Bill acquired the theater in 1968, it was just dirty and seats needed repainting and wires fixed but it was in good condition. There were major stage repairs, though. There was soft red velvet on the walls, carpeted floors, mirrored walls and a chandelier above the double balcony, concessions upstairs and a big lobby. It had dressing rooms because in the 20s and 30s it housed the Yiddish Theater. The dressing rooms were on 5 levels which were accessed from up stage left. It was also used as a meeting hall in the 30s and 40s by Bolshevik groups on the Lower East Side. It stood on the corner and was three quarters of a block long. The building looks small from the outside but opened up behind the stores and above was NYU, the theater and technical wing. He bought it for $400,000.
When they fixed it up, they tore down some brick walls and changed the whole back of the theater to get the wiring through. They made alot of changes in the stage area to make it effective to do a variety of production. There was a proscenium and a rococo frieze which they cleaned up and that had been made at the Motoma Amusement Company of Chicago which went broke during the Depression.

Of note about the Saint. It was the largest gay disco in New York at the height of gay liberation, pre-AIDS. It closed when AIDS hit hard but they did keep the place open 24 hours one night a week. The Saint was gutted and turned into an 8-theater complex, known as the Loew’s Octoplex.

Apparently there was a theater across the street called the Anderson Yiddishe Theater (but it didn’t show movies). When the book was written in 1992, someone in the book said it was across the street and closed down and it was located at 4th Street and 2nd Avenue.

Graham allowed a film crew to come in before he closed and there was video documentary of the Fillmore East!!! A documentary called “Last Days of the Fillmore” was released in 1972 along with a boxed, three-record set of the performers, all the hot acts of the late 60s. There was a 32-page booklet with photos, a Fillmore poster and ticket, etc.

shoeshoe14
shoeshoe14 on June 2, 2005 at 10:11 pm

Correction. Bill Graham opened the Fillmore East in 1968 and it closed in 1971 when he also closed Fillmore West. There is a Fillmore East dedication page at www.fillmore-east.com and there are links to pics and a book on the history of the place. I cannot for the life of me find any pics of the inside. I have Bill Graham’s autobiography and there’s one pic of the stage and the ionic columns on either side of the stage, but that’s it. I’m trying to find the history of the place but it’s tough.

donktamblyn
donktamblyn on May 25, 2005 at 11:57 pm

I lived in New York from 1982 to 1991 and visited “The Saint” several times while it was in opperation. I was never a big fan of disco clubs, however The Saint was the best club I ever attended. I was always curious about the buildings history and am sad that another theatre treasure has been demolished. Small minds and big bucks seem to have that effect. Too many buildings with rich histories seem to meet the same fate. I just learned today that the building that housed the infamous McGurk’s on Bowery is, or has been signed to the same fate. You would think developers could use some imagination to include history in their projects.

Ken Roe
Ken Roe on May 1, 2005 at 5:59 pm

Thanks Irv, I will keep a look out for that book.

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on May 1, 2005 at 5:45 pm

KenRoe-

You are correct sir. In tribute, the Emmigrant Savings Bank still does have some great art which includes collages by an artist that I forgot the name of, and photos from the Fillmore East era by the official/unofficial house photographer Amalie Rothschild. If you are a fan of the theater (which you probably are) and a fan of the Fillmore era music Amalie Rothschild released a book of her photos a few years ago called ‘Live at the Fillmore East’ which not only documents many of the bands that played their but the general environment when it was still a live music venue. Great photos of the interior, the people, and of course Bill Graham at work. If you don’t buy it, it is at least definitely worth a look.

Ken Roe
Ken Roe on May 1, 2005 at 6:47 am

A couple of years ago I went into the bank (former lobby of the Commodore Theatre) and they had a small history display on the theatre.

I am lucky to have a set of audio cassette tapes that were recorded on the last night of the Saint Disco. The Saint was famous even here in London,UK as one of the worlds best disco’s. Sadly, I never went into the building on my visits to New York.

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on May 1, 2005 at 3:01 am

Just another correction to add to the original description here. The apartment building that went up and now stands in the theater space is called the Hudson East, not the Fillmore Apartments. If I recall correctly, the developers were going to try to work the Fillmore name into the new property but couldn’t due to legalities with the name, but don’t quote me on that. Some other vague info somebody else here might be able to add to: after the venue closed as The Fillmore East, there were failed attempts to keep it going as a live music venue with a few concerts being held there in the early 70s but that didn’t work out. And once again, if I’m not mistaken the Saint may have doubled as a concert venue even though the interior had been dramatically changed by that time. The orchestra seats were removed and a second level was attached the length of the theater from the balcony to the proscenium which remained, but the original stage wasn’t there anymore. The Grateful Dead/Jam Band/Hippie magazine Relix held a few shows there, one that I think featured Bob Weir from The Grateful Dead around this time in the late 80s.

If you walk past the apartment building on East 6th Street now they have a plaque near the entrance that notes the history of the building as the Commodore, the Fillmore East, and The Saint. A noble attempt at recognizing the history, but once again a reminder of the shame of Manhattan real estate development.

In February 1995 I was granted permission from the realtors to go inside the buiding, which at that time was shuttered and dormant. To make a long story short, it was a very eerie experience and one I haven’t and never will forget. Later that winter, I watched the building gradually come down to pieces. I walked past it just about every morning peeking inside during the demoliton. Needless to say…sad! It still had potential, and there was in fact one lone businessman from the area that was trying to get backing to re-open it as The Fillmore, with plans to use it as a concert venue and media space. Without being too biased, I think that if things had worked out the theater probably could have been a sucessful live venue again. Since that time new places that didn’t exist at the time of the Fillmore’s demolition like the Bowery Ballroom (which never was a theater to begin with, but an old department store) and the resurected Webster Hall have flourished as live venues, and they are approximately in the same area.

The asking price for the Commodore/Fillmore/Saint building before it was razed was $6 million, but we all know how that story ended. But hey…look on the bright side, we have a wonderful BANK and yet another generic looking luxury apartment building there instead. Can’t ever have too many of them in New York now, can we?…..NOT!!!!!

RobertR
RobertR on April 18, 2005 at 9:57 pm

Here is a pic of the Fillmore East, what a great vertical it had

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bamtino
bamtino on January 17, 2005 at 11:12 pm

When it opened in 1926, the Commodore was the largest of the 10 movie theatres in operation on Second Avenue between Houston and 9th Street.

bamtino
bamtino on June 26, 2004 at 3:18 pm

A current photo of the facade, as well as a brief history of the theatre, can be found here:
http://www.theatre-scrapbook.com/

Some nice images of the theatre as the Fillmore, including a nice color photo of the marquee (featuring The Kinks & The Who among others), can be found at the site below:
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Ed Solero
Ed Solero on October 8, 2003 at 2:32 am

Just to correct… the venue was still called The Village Theater as late as 1967. Bill Graham did not re-open it as the Fillmore East until March of 1968 (with Janis Joplin and Big Brother on the bill).

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on February 14, 2003 at 11:55 pm

Just a note to correct the theater history: Rock impresario Bill Graham took control of the Village Theater and dubbed it the Fillmore East in 1968, not ‘66. The opening night headlined Big Brother and the Holding Company featuring Janis Joplin. Graham closed the Fillmore East (and it’s sister Fillmore West in San Francisco) in the 1971. I’m not sure what the history of the building was between that time and it’s reopening as The Saint in 1980. The theater was located on 2nd Avenue between East 6th and East 7th. I believe the narrow 2nd Avenue facade remains more or less the unaltered.

David10465
David10465 on June 8, 2002 at 11:40 pm

In 1980 the Commodore/Village/Fillmore East was converted into The Saint, a large discotheque. A dance floor was placed in the middle of the auditorium with a planetarium dome over it. The original theatre had been in a semi-Adamesque style and certain elements had been retained like the proscenium arch, the ceiling dome and plaster reliefs on the side walls. The lobby was left pretty much in tact, but painted black with the relief elements silver-leafed. The disco closed in 86 or 87, sat vacant for years until the auditorium was demolished for yet another unremarkable apartment building.