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vindanpar commented about Criterion Theatre on Feb 4, 2020 at 9:34 am

AlAlvarez explained why this hit roadshow film had such a short run at the Criterion. Had it had a regular run I would have been able to see it here. Frustrating.

Second to last successful roadshow film. Clicking on the My Fair Lady article brings you to a beautiful picture of the Criterion at night playing the film which had to be early ‘65 because no Oscar yet and it looks like a Jan or Feb snow fall. What you of course you cannot tell is the marquee had lights which I believe went on and off from left to right. I saw it very long ago online. On you tube there is a very nice Pathe film of the premiere in London. In black and white with sound. There is also some silent color footage. Beaton writes in his diaries the response was disappointingly not enthusiastic. Well he didn’t think it was very good anyway. I wish as much had survived of the NY premiere. I can’t even remember who the host was. And with typical NY courtesy on one of the professionally most exciting nights of her life he confronts Hepburn about who did her singing in the film. She should have hauled off and flattened him but doesn’t even flinch and responds graciously.

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vindanpar commented about Loew's Capitol Theatre on Feb 1, 2020 at 9:37 am

I have most of them but I haven’t had a chance to sit and watch them. Also somebody said they aren’t worth watching unless you have a 10 ft screen. Well that’s not happening.

There was a screening of SP a number of years ago where I saw a photo of Gaynor, Kerr and Nuyen posing in front of the theater. Kerr looked very old which is always surprising when you only know how a person looked in their youth. Nuyen and Gaynor looked really good.

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vindanpar commented about Loew's Capitol Theatre on Jan 31, 2020 at 7:17 pm

Was that the SP screening that was also attended by Kerr and Nuyen? Interesting that the cast of WSS was there.

Anybody see Planet of the Apes here? Did it use only a portion of the Cinerama screen? As well when Heat of the Night played was it shown on the curved screen but masked for the proper screen ratio?

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vindanpar commented about Loew's Capitol Theatre on Jan 31, 2020 at 1:08 pm

I didn’t realize that. Thanks. The projectionist invited me into the booth at the Ziegfeld when the Robert Harris restoration of Lawrence was shown. He was very proud. And rightfully so. He told me on opening night Lean, O'Toole and Sharif came to see him in it. I would have been floored.

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vindanpar commented about Loew's Capitol Theatre on Jan 31, 2020 at 5:42 am

To have something like this in the NY area!

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vindanpar commented about Loew's Capitol Theatre on Jan 30, 2020 at 9:37 pm

Were any of the stars of the film who are still living as of 2020 in attendance; Eden, Bloom, Tamblyn, Mimieux?

Also how many reels of film would this involve because I’ve never really thought about it before. Exactly how did the film break down as actually 3 films were being shown simultaneously. How did this print survive and how did this collector get his hands on it? Was this risky in that Warners or whomever could claim it as their property? Are all these cans of film just languishing in somebody’s garage in Australia? Shouldn’t efforts be made to preserve them considering they are nearly 60 years old? Sounds like a story in and of itself.

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vindanpar commented about Loew's Capitol Theatre on Jan 26, 2020 at 9:40 pm

I saw it at one of those MGM kids' matinees they had in the 70s. The print was old and the joins clearly seen. I was not impressed. However I’m sure a beautiful Cinerama print would be a revelation.

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vindanpar commented about Loew's Capitol Theatre on Jan 26, 2020 at 3:55 pm

Wouldn’t Turner just show a 35mm copy?

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vindanpar commented about Loew's Capitol Theatre on Jan 26, 2020 at 8:57 am

The late 60s in a nutshell. From Loew’s State big budget roadshow to a year and a half later sex comedy at the Orleans. Well there was a Radio City comedy/drama in between.

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vindanpar commented about Loew's Capitol Theatre on Jan 25, 2020 at 1:03 pm

Mike who cried in your cornflakes? So grouchy. If you are familiar with roadshow films is it that difficult to figure out what these long titles are? It’s not like CHMEFMHAFTH.

My Roman Empire bluray is Paramount Japan. I haven’t opened it yet but except for the credits it is all in japanese. The only one that was region 1 and affordable.

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vindanpar commented about Radio City Music Hall on Jan 22, 2020 at 6:17 am

I’ve never seen this film. Is it no longer shown because it’s not pc? Or does it no longer exist? I remember reading the play as a boy and when I really wasn’t aware of such things it wasn’t pc(though the acronym did not exist.) to me then.

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vindanpar commented about Radio City Music Hall on Jan 18, 2020 at 1:55 pm

Well that’s certainly a busy stage show. 500 performers is a lot. I wonder exactly how many there really were.

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vindanpar commented about Loew's State Theatre on Jan 15, 2020 at 5:09 pm

Without a Stitch even had Valenti bemoaning the fact that porn was now playing first run on Broadway at a deluxer. I’d call it the beginning of the end of Times Square but it was probably the triple blow destruction of the Paramount, Capitol and Astor Hotel. The horrible Allied Chemical building didn’t help much either.

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vindanpar commented about Rivoli Theatre on Jan 9, 2020 at 10:52 am

The thing about Magnascope was that it was very grainy wasn’t it? When the Music Hall after it ended its movie stage show policy showed some old films at 11am on weekdays, a single film for an entire week, I saw Good News and Showboat with what I assume was magnascope projection. Much larger than for example the screen size used for the week long run of Singing in the Rain in ‘75. That was a very small screen indeed but the image was brilliant in its definition and colors. Good News and Showboat on the much larger screen however were very grainy and soft looking in comparison.

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vindanpar commented about Rivoli Theatre on Jan 9, 2020 at 10:52 am

The thing about Magnascope was that it was very grainy wasn’t it? When the Music Hall after it ended its movie stage show policy showed some old films at 11am on weekdays, a single film for an entire week, I saw Good News and Showboat with what I assume was magnascope projection. Much larger than for example the screen size used for the week long run of Singing in the Rain in ‘75. That was a very small screen indeed but the image was brilliant in its definition and colors. Good News and Showboat on the much larger screen however were very grainy and soft looking in comparison.

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vindanpar commented about Rivoli Theatre on Jan 8, 2020 at 5:03 pm

That very shallow stage looks like a very crowded off Broadway theater production supported by a symphony orchestra in front of it. It must have looked like a postage stamp in the mezz and balcony.

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vindanpar commented about Rivoli Theatre on Jan 8, 2020 at 11:59 am

One can see on see on page 8 what the Rivoli live presentations looked like. It still involved a fair number of performers which would have required more than what you would find in a Broadway musical today. It looks like a small shallow proscenium stage. If the screen were behind that stage/platform rather than being brought down at the proscenium level than they would have had some sort of fly space along with common areas and dressing rooms for the performers no matter how cramped. One can go into any old Broadway theater and see how very cramped the facilties are. That is one big orchestra for a house the size of the Rivoli. Performers and musicians alone are close to 60 people. And did they do like 4 to 5 performances a day. That was quite an operation for that small space.

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vindanpar commented about Rivoli Theatre on Jan 7, 2020 at 7:54 pm

The Rivoli had a small shallow stage. Somebody posted pictures here of stage presentations. In its later years an electronics shop was built there where the lower long horizontal billboard used to be. It also had a large rear door/gate where I imagine sets and instruments were brought in. If you saw the rear you could see it was at one time a presentation house that would have had the facilities that it would have required for orchestral, performer and set needs. Much more modest though than the larger palaces. It’s possible it was added later if it was not part of the original design.

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vindanpar commented about Rivoli Theatre on Jan 7, 2020 at 3:39 am

Yes that’s certainly the best way. Get it out of library and decide for yourself if you find it informative. For you if you do I’d find it surprising. I don’t remember the time span it covers.

Maybe I should read it as well. Maybe it’s better than I remembered, I mean it really can’t be as bad, and I’d have to eat my hat. Didn’t we discuss another one as well that was kind of a mess?

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vindanpar commented about Rivoli Theatre on Jan 6, 2020 at 4:29 am

Well the book has been written since and puts the whole roadshow policy in a negative light never acknowledging its advantages in terms of presentation. Dolly got good reviews too and Sound of Music got some staggeringly bad ones. In some ways worse in that there were those who felt that Wise were attackingly them personally. I haven’t looked at his book in a while but found simply reading certain sections all he did was quote others who didn’t like them.

Does he give the history of the roadshow film from the beginning of the 20th Century? Does he talk about the theaters where they played and what the experience was like? How it motivated a certain kind of filmmaking? I got the impression from what I saw he took no sense of the showbusiness historical sense of how it developed and why it fell out of use. It was in its dogged way a poorly thought out lazy book.

Remember the critics of the time for some reason turned on this kind of prestige filmmaking(oddly one who did Pauline Kael loved Oliver! Funny Girl and Fiddler on the Roof.) But they turned with viciousness on David Lean with Ryan’s Daughter which certainly fit the description of a hardticket film traumatizing this man who you know had to have an ego the size of a continent to achieve what he did depriving us the films of a master for more than a decade. And this movie today is draw dropping with the storm sequence one of the greatest put ever put on film with no CGI or special effects.

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vindanpar commented about Rivoli Theatre on Jan 5, 2020 at 6:40 pm

bigjoe59

Mr. Kennedy never went to a roadshow movie in his life. Though he’s certainly old enough. His research was other people’s books and Variety on microfilm.

He probably never even knew the Rivoli existed until he compiled his paste and copy ‘book.’ I assume he’s seen most of the movies he talks about in some video format. Probably vhs tape.

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vindanpar commented about Rivoli Theatre on Jan 5, 2020 at 7:10 am

It begins with another dinosaur brain remark by Matthew Kennedy who knows as much about roadshow movies as Helen Keller knew about the works of Egon Schiele.

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vindanpar commented about Virginia Theatre on Jan 2, 2020 at 8:32 pm

Mikeoakland park it seems you went a few times to see Dolly at the Virginia. You should have traveled up to the Asbury Park St James to see it there. A very classy elegant large screen, borders, curtain 70mm roadshow house. As I’ve said I was only there once but had I been older I would have gone probably several times to every roadshow picture there. If I were a billionaire I would rebuild it as a revival house.

I had a friend who was a big fan of Sabatini. He much preferred the Ramon Navarro Scaramouche to the Granger(I love it but I’ve never seen the silent.) He went to look it up at the Lincoln Center library and came back to show me a copy he made of an ad for it. It was for the St James. I thought that was pretty cool. Who needed Granada when they could have had Asbury Park?

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vindanpar commented about Museum of the Moving Image on Dec 29, 2019 at 1:07 pm

70mm rarely shown: CCBB, Dr Dolittle, Barrabas, Magnificent Men, Cheyenne Autumn, The Hallelujah Trail, The Agony and the Ecstasy, Lord Jim.

Cleopatra most underrated epic ever. What a raw deal it got. Oh to have seen the original 6 hour cut. ‘I asked it of Caesar, I demand it of you!’

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vindanpar commented about Embassy 1,2,3 Theatre on Dec 29, 2019 at 12:50 pm

When Time Square still had some class and dignity before it started looking like Coney.