Radio City Music Hall
1260 6th Avenue,
New York,
NY
10020
1260 6th Avenue,
New York,
NY
10020
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Jim, yes they do raise and lower the curtain as part of the tour regularly. What I was referring to with the curtain motors is that when the curtain was replaced they were not able to re-instate the way it had operated in the past. It still rises and falls in the most majestic way but it is uniform. It used to be possible to operate each of the 13 motors randomly to form patterns as the drape rose and fell or to suit a particular stage act. Originally there was an entire part of the stage programme called “Symphony of the Curtains” where the curtain changed shapes whilst the twin organs and orchestra accompanied it. What a thrill is must have been and thats before the show had even started!
It is good that Porter Faulkner chose to mention that brochure for the grand reopening with its swatch of the contour front curtain preceding the restoration, since it is a good visual record of the fabulous place today. I too bought a copy, though on-line from their ‘Gift Shop’ at their site: www.RadioCity.com where they sell it via credit card payment only, and via UPS shipment only. For those outside of New York area not able to meet those terms, one could write to its publisher: Radio City Entertainment, Two Pennsylvania Plaza, New York, NY 10121-0091 USA. The 48-page glossy softbound is titled: “RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL: A Legend Is Reborn” and while having a poor glue binding, and being focused more on what occurred there over the years than on the building, there is that invaluable swatch as well as a spectacular vintage painting/drawing of the understage area via a cutaway view that shows just how those three giant stage elevators work. As a side note, the woman who wrote the brochure should have done better research, since right in the photo of the famous contour curtain can be seen to those knowing how such things work, that it was a 15-point suspension, not 13 as she claims in her caption on page 20. She forgot that there are also lines on each end of the curtain off stage that help pull the entire mass up out of sight and into storage in the apparent ‘ceiling.’
It is a shame that they are evidently not using the curtain at every performance, since I know from seeing it move in filmstrips, that were I a tourist there visiting the place, I would definitely want to see that lustrous ‘waterfall’ of drapery rising and descending as no other curtain of such size any longer does on these shores. If Porter did not see it move when he paid to go in there, then he was cheated, as will be anyone else denied this spectacle!
Regarding the changed neon colors on the marquee.The first week when it reopened after the recent restoration I took the tour. Speaking to the very knowledgeable guide, he informed me that over the years the colors had changed due to manufacturing techniques. Just like Jim Rankin suggests.
Over time the blue had become a more royal blue and was returned to at the original turquoise blue that was more eyecatching. The red had become a screamingly bright orange-red and was returned to a rich true red.
I also took the oportunity to puchase the brochure for the grand reopening gala which they were selling in the shop. It has a 3" x 5" swatch of the original gold stage curtain fabric attached to a spectacular photo of the curatin in action. Shame they can’t seem to operate the curtain’s 13 motors they way they used to anymore…….
On my first trip to New York in May, 1977, “Smokey and the Bandit” was playing it’s first run. However, I was so excited to see the big apple on my first of only 3 days, we went ONLY to see the Rockettes perform. I ordered a box of popcorn in the lobby and recall that the poor salesgirl had to repeat herself several times since I had never heard a thick Bronx accent before and could not understand what she was saying to me. I felt so bad for her, but she was very kind and finally spoke very slowly so I could get her message. The stage show was about 20 minutes, then there was a short subject and some trailers. When the film started, we left to continue exploration of Times Square. I still have not seen the film!
I remember how incredibly massive everything was around me, and though worn and old, it was still very beautiful. Thank God the owners have lavished some money and time on one of the greatest of all Art Deco structures…. and it’s worth a visit to New York JUST TO SEE THIS THEATER!
Regarding the previous posts about “Airport” at RCMH, does anyone know what other theaters in the U.S. showed 70mm prints of this film. I’ve always heard there were very few. If you answer, please give your source.
I have now decided to attend the Fox Theatre/Atlanta open house from 1-7 tomorrow December 26th and can’t wait! I plan to wear a nametag that says CINEMA THEATRES. ORG with my name underneath PATSY! Should be fun! I will post my day at the Fox on the Fox Theatre page on Monday or Tuesday!
I hope someone knowing the details of the neon change of color comes forward, but it may simply be that the exact shade of red that preceeded it has fallen out of production. A number of colors that originated with neon in the 1920s, are not now made, since it has been found cheaper to make subsitute colors. For example, there was a “Uranium green” but it was never made after a new use was found for uranium and the price of the ore thus shot out of reach. Maybe someone at the sign company making it will know the details and tell the truth of the matter, assuming the exact choice of color was theirs.
I wouldn’t know this bit of trivia, but think I would prefer red letters over pink letters.
When the marquee of the Radio City Music Hall was renovated several years ago, the letters, which originally were lit in bright red, were changed to hot pink. To this day, it bothers me to see the sign in pink letters ,when the original letters were red. Was this an oversight when they restored the theater?
Radio City Music Hall Bulletin
Published Fortnightly By and For the Employees
Vol. III Wednesday, Nov. 1, 1939 No. 30
SURPRISE PARTY
One day recently – and it was not a Friday, when the usual Music Hall executive luncheon is held up on the Studio Floor – one Music Hall-ite had a real surprise. Informed that he had an engagement with a certain film company executive, this ranking member of the theater’s legion was ushered into our domed dining room to the chorus of a “Happy BIrthday to You” by more than a dozen Music Hall departmental heads.
The recipient of this impromptu party was, in case you haven’t already guessed, our own Mr. Van. And the only person not present-that certain film executive with whom he had been told he was to lunch.
Needless to say, all of us at the theater join with the round table group in wishing our Managing Director many, many happy Music Hall years.
Other headings (followed by text) in this bulletin include:
Spotlight and Sidelights by S. J. Brody
News Notes and Comment
Max!
Service Staff Stuff by the Chief Usher
From the library
THe Glee Clubroom
Projection Room Murmurs
want to read more?
Don’t know the interest of the readers here but we do have a few of these old employee Bulletins.
This one might last forever!
Also enjoyed the photo story as I didn’t know that Jerry Maren went on to become Buster Brown! More neat trivia!
Really enjoyed the Rockefeller letter! Thanks!
Thought I would share this letter with you that was sent to my father in law who was one of the very early violinists in the pit of the RCMH and was with them for many years to follow:
Rockefeller Center Inc
50 Rockefeller Plaza
New York
May 28, 1940
Dear…
When the final rivet in Rockefeller Center was driven last November, signalling the completion of steel construction, Father and I were disappointed that lack of space made it impossible for us to ask all our employees in the Center to be present at the ceremony. Because of this we want you to have as a souvenir of the occasion a book just published by the Columbia University Press.
We trust that the reading of this book will give you the same pride and inspiration that those of us who attended the ceremony received on that occasion.
Sincerely yours,
Nelson A Rockefeller
Mr…
Radio City Music Hall
1260 Sixth Ave
New York, N.Y.
The book is entitled “The Last Rivet"
The story of ROckefeller Center, a city within a city, as told at the ceremony in which John D. Rockefeller, Jr. drove the last rivet of the last building, November 1, 1939.
A little OT- a friend sent me an oz pic not too long ago of Dorothy and the 3 lollipop kids.. well the one lollipop kid, Jerry Maren, who handed Dorothy the lollipop was 17 when he did the movie and it is autographed ;) as my friend wrote to him to get it
Jerry went on to became littlest chef with the oscar meyer wienermobile and was Buster Brown of Buster Brown shoes…
p.s Ringo is expected to tour again next year so a visit to RCMH may again be in order. Obviously I am a fan!
Thanks Dorothy from Oz for your interesing RCMH Ringo story! The Wizard of Oz was recently on TV and I just happened to catch the part where Judy G. sings Over the Rainbow…a very special moment in a very special movie!
My last trip to Radio City was to see Ringo Starr and the All Stars perform! Stood outside the side stage door to meet the artists. Took awhile but they came out eventually. Ringo & wife Barbara Bach (a Bond girl) had already dashed out super quickly at the end of the last song. Guess he didn’t have to wait for me or an elevator.
(giggle)
“There were once lights at every seat so you could read the program.” A very interesting bit of RCMH trivia! Thanks Myron and to all who have contributed their RCMH memories!
Thanks to Ron for bringing back memories by putting a list a films shown at Radio City. I often visited as a boy and fondly remember many of those films with my family. Somebody posted that Greer Garson had more films than any actress at the Music Hall, but it would seem that either Doris Day or Audrey Hepburn had the most films. Also, I remember seeing “The Bridges at Toko-Ri”, “The Teahouse of the August Moon”, “Friendly Persuasion”, and “Sayonnara” there. The films shown as revivals I don’t count as we are interested in films that premiered at the RCMH. I haven’t visited RCMH for 20 years now that movies are not shown anymore and the prices are outlandish. Also, I dislike reserved seats because if you get noisy families next to you, you cannot change seats and I don’t have a good time. In the 50’s and 60’s, you could change seats at will. Also, there were once lights at every seat so you could read the program.
My RCMH interest and subsequent questions have certainly stirred up alot of commentary which is great so I thank all who have contributed to this theatre page as there is only ONE Radio City Music Hall! And if anyone is with 100 miles of the Fox Theatre in Atlanta the place to be on December 26th is THAT theatre for the special open house to commemorate the Fabulous Fox’s 75th anniversary! If anyone does go, please post your thoughts on the Fox page as we’d all love to read them! Thanks.
I think I read in Variety on microfilm years ago the the crowds for Top Hat were so enormous that extra morning perfs were added accounting for 134k. The excitement at the Hall in those days must have been incredible. It’s hard to imagine today the Music Hall being full and having lines around the block all day long during the week.
Don’t forget that that in 1933 this was the very first Christmas show and was not yet a traditon, nor was the holiday time off as extended for school children and workers as it soon became. Also Fred and Ginger didn’t even get top billing in “Flying Down to Rio.” The stars were Raul Julian (?) and Dolores Del Rio. They didn’t sell tickets on their own until “The Gay Divorcee” opened in 1934 and grossed “$96,800 and $80,000 in its two week run Nov 15 – 28. "Roberta” was their next hit there..also two weeks $99,000 and $90,000 (March 7 – 20, 1935). “Top Hat” went through the roof in 1935 with $134,000, $115,000, $98,900 from Aug 29 – Sept 18. Nothing came close in attendance or gross for many years. “Follow the Fleet” and “Swing Time” were also mammoth 3-week hits in 1936. Getting back to “Little Women,” it got raves and was a classic with a waiting public. There were no extra performances, however mornings and afternoon shows were always sold out due to large family attendance. Sorry about the last line in my note above. “Cavalcade” also was a huge hit during Easter week of 1933 grossing $100,00.
It’s amazing that Little Women would beat out Rio by almost 20k. I would have thought that Rio would have played to capacity for both holiday weeks. And considering how cheap seats were that’s a lot of admissions.There must be some reason for this. Extra perfs perhaps?
Answer to Joe Vogel: The RKO Roxy opened on Dec 29. It was soon renamed the Center Theater following a law suit between the orginal Roxy Theater at 7th Ave and 50th Street and the new management at RKO Center (what we now know as Rockefeller Center). The Center theater had 3,700 seats and was operated as a presentation house i.e. film and stage show. The opening attraction was “The Animal Kingdom” starring Leslie Howard and Ann Harding and was a great success grossing $71,000, $60,000 and $40,000 during its three week run. (Most films that opened at the RCMH during the first couple of years rarely went past one week. However all subsequent films died at the Center Theater when the RCMH switched to films and stage shows beginning January 11, 1933. (It was also the Depression).It’s interesting to note that the Center Theater with almost half the seating capacity of the RCMH drew bigger crowds during its opening weeks than did the RCMH. For whatever it’s worth, here are the admission prices for the Center Theater. Prices changed at noon and 6Pm. Mon-Fri $35; $.55; $.72 Saturday $.83 $.94 $.1.10 and $1.65 for mezzanine reserved seats for evening shows.
For all you trivia buffs: “King Kong” played day and date at the Center Theater and the Radio City Music Hall for it first week only. It grossed $88,000 at the RCMH and then played exclusively for the next two weeks at the Center Theater. The grosses there were $35,000; $35,000 and $33,800.
Did you know that “Flying Down to Rio” with Fred and Ginger was the film that accompanied the first Christmas stage show in 1933. It opened on Dec 21 and played two weeks through January 3. It grossed $98,000 and $100,000. Very fine, but it didn’t break the previous house record of $118,000 set during November by “Little Women.” Ittle eber the previous Easter week by “Cavalcade.” Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you.
Oh, OK. I only read Benjamin’s recent comment after I posted this question. D'OH! There is my answer. The Center. I’ll be sure to read the latest comments in a thread before posting questions in the future.