Ziegfeld Theatre

141 W. 54th Street,
New York, NY 10019

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Ed Solero
Ed Solero on February 9, 2012 at 10:26 pm

It’s all academic, now. Here we are, 43 years on, and we’re on the brink of having nothing left to thread in cinemas across the nation. Working masters of the craft such as yourself, Peter, will eventually be left simply to punch up data files, particularly once studios stop striking prints altogether and all extant reels just fall apart from wear and tear.

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on February 9, 2012 at 10:10 pm

I think the intention was that he would thread up the projectors during intervals and then come back down, the way manager/projectionists did outside New York.

PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on February 9, 2012 at 8:29 pm

So they added a guy in the auditorium to ride the sound & lights while keeping a projectionist only to thread up and make changeovers, etc.? Sounds like a monumentally dumb idea.

Vito
Vito on February 9, 2012 at 8:22 pm

Peter that was the first thing I said to him. With Smoke coming out of my ears and fire out of my mouth I reduced the little twerp to rubble and walked away. As Professor Higgins once said “I am a gentle man BUT…let a women (in his case idiot in my life :)

PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on February 9, 2012 at 5:57 pm

If there was “no man in the booth”, who was threading up?

Vito
Vito on February 9, 2012 at 5:45 pm

Oh yes Bill I shall never forget the day I went to that opening and confronted that fool running that control panel who said something along the lines of “We don’t need the man in the booth anymore” I went off on him like a bomb, I could not accept a 306 guy telling people that, it was a touchy subject at the time with all that automated stuff about to pounce on us. We knew it was the beginning of the end of projection as we knew and loved it but I still was not ready or willing to accept it. Little did we know that platters were just waiting in the wings to pounce on us or the inevitable replacement of film with Digital. “Won’t need the guy in the booth” indeed has sadly come to pass.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on February 8, 2012 at 9:38 pm

Thanks, Ed! I’ll be using that from now on.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on February 8, 2012 at 9:37 pm

Click here for a picture of the Ziegfeld console in 1969.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on February 8, 2012 at 9:27 pm

“Click here” goes in brackets [ ] followed immediately by the website address in parentheses ( ) with no spaces between the close bracket and the open parenthesis. Give it a test spin… you can always remove the comment if it doesn’t work.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on February 8, 2012 at 9:23 pm

Does the Ziegfeld support 7.1 Dolby Surround?

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on February 8, 2012 at 9:03 pm

Ed, thanks for reposting the link to the picture. I need to learn how to do that “Click Here” thing!

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on February 8, 2012 at 8:58 pm

Interesting, Al. I imagine there might have been a potential distraction issue for patrons seated in the raised loge at the back of the auditorium. I could also imagine the operator having his hands full making sure no one reached over and toyed with the console while walking by. But then, perhaps more was expected of general audiences back in 1969. I’m viewing the situation through the dark prism of contemporary behavior among moviegoers.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on February 8, 2012 at 8:57 pm

For the record, that 1970 screening was my first time at the Ziegfeld. It was a double feature: “West Side Story” and “Around the World in 80 Days”. 5 ½ hours. What a great introduction to a great theater.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on February 8, 2012 at 8:55 pm

Several years ago, Vito posted what he thought of the console on this page. At the same time, I related an incident where the console seemed to go out of control during a 1970 screening of “West Side Story”. The soundtrack was filled with ear-splitting popping noises, which only went away when the operator turned the console off and walked away from it. The audience then applauded.

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on February 8, 2012 at 8:30 pm

The console was installed in the auditorium so that a single projectionist could run the whole operation from downstairs with closed circuit TV views of all three projectors upstairs. It gave the projectionist a patron’s- eye view of the presentation.

The Union never accepted the concept so it never ran that way.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on February 8, 2012 at 8:18 pm

I didn’t get an email either, moviebuff82. Sometimes, there is a lag in notification, however.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on February 8, 2012 at 8:15 pm

My question for Vito and Bill is why would the console be out on the auditorium floor? Just for the photo-op? Did they wire it to function out there before installing it again up in the booth? Or is the operator in the image merely pretending to fiddle with the knobs?

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on February 8, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Hey Vito… Click here to see Bill’s photo. This image is actually uploaded in the photo tab above, so you’d be able to find it by browsing there as well.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on February 8, 2012 at 8:09 pm

Didn’t get an email about responding to comments about last comment by you vito.

Vito
Vito on February 8, 2012 at 8:08 pm

Bill I am a bit confussed what did you mean “Here is the console” The link took me to movie ads. Ole age perhaps but I can not recall why you sent me that :)

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on February 7, 2012 at 9:55 pm

Vito: Here it is, the console!

http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/12/photos/33800

Seeing that should bring back some (bad) memories.

Thanks to DEFG for posting the picture.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on December 25, 2011 at 1:25 pm

Is Ziegfeld projection still 2k or upgraded yet to 4k?

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on November 24, 2011 at 12:59 am

By the way, speaking of 70mm, here’s a link to a fest in LA coming up in December just for 70mm.

http://www.americancinemathequecalendar.com/content/bigger-than-life-70mm

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on November 24, 2011 at 12:40 am

I did not get into the projection booth today, but I would guess that the standard projectors are still there (gathering cobwebs) with every presentation now digital. I don’t consider that a bad thing for two reasons relative to classics like “Apocalypse Now.”

The Museum of the Moving Image in Queens has just started a “See it Big” program with classics including 70mm-recently “Lawrence” and “Playtime.” Check it out at Movingimage.US You want to catch “Apocalypse Now” 70mm there? Send them an e-mail and let them know. They have a magnificent new theatre that can show anything and will. If you live in the NYC area, you have one of the best opportunities for catching classic films….TimeOut NY has pages of them every single week.

The other reason is the growing movement to make digital prints of classic films. The first one I saw was “Goldfinger” at the Ziegfeld a few seasons back, which I introduced. For the first time I could crisply see the inscription on the gold bar that Bond and Goldfinger play for at the golf match. How’s that for “better than new”—add to this, all of which i’ve seen, the digital “Breakfast at Tiffany’s,” “West Side Story,” and an absolutely astonishing “Ben Hur” showcased at the NY Film Festival. My jaw dropped.

By the way, I am someone who would rather see ANY film in a theatre than on the best home video system imaginable. To me, the Ziegfeld is the place to have a great experience.

Best,

Gary

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on November 23, 2011 at 11:50 pm

Does the Ziegfeld still use 70mm film projection or is it all digital now? My dad saw Apocalypse Now in its engagement in 70mm 5.1 Dolby analog surround sound and loved it.