No. The only second run I remember seeing was Superman when it moved over from its long first run at the Astor Plaza. Then I saw Aliens which was the last film I saw there before it was twinned.
Looks like the red neon frame on the marquee was still up at this point for Willard before they got rid of the neon and replaced it with silver aluminum. This means I saw it but had forgotten. It looked great surrounded by the Bond’s neon. And with the Gordon’s Gin spectacular above it was the last of the old great Times Square blocks.
Believe it or not I heard two different people in the late 70s/early 80s when I was walking on the opposite side of the street when they saw the decrepit disrepair the site was in say ‘I never thought I’d see that block look like that.’ I myself would have loved to be going to the Criterion during the roadshow era. Just the marquee announcing some big buget epic or musical must have been exciting.
I know they are listing Music Hall bookings but it is amazing there are so many other wonderful Selznick films of the period. Do not underestimate the power of Benzedrine. Though I think those pills ultimately ruined his health they allowed him super human energy.
Was The Robe CinemaScope screen wide enough to stretch beyond the sides of the proscenium or was it the same screen to be used for the CinemaScope films that played along with a stage show and had to be raised into the flies above?
So obviously a big miss with its paper mache sets, very miscast leading lady and cut songs. And right on the heels of the huge unexpected success of Seven Brides which looked even worse but had an ideal cast, much better choreography, a tight book and a sensational director coming into his own.
As the big summer film the Hall knew Seven Brides was the winner.
I never saw a non 70mm film either genuine or blow up at the Rivoli. When showing a Panavision 35mm print like Jaws did they fill the curved Todd AO screen with the image or was it projected with borders making the screen smaller?
If you look at the two links the one in in 2006 the entire roadshow print was restored:
‘FotoKem Restores “South Pacific” “Bigfoot” Scanner Restores 65mm Classic to Better Than Original Condition with 14 Minutes of Lost Footage’
But at the second link the AFI print was 157 minutes.
The current Bluray and TCM showing completely ignore the restoration as if it never happened. So did it? And if so why is that not acknowledged? What happened to it?
I should also say that as a record collector from way back the current young people who run companies sometimes have no idea what they are doing(not always.) They ruin older recordings with compression or brightening or they do not find the best sources for a reissue.
Not having been around way back when their sense of what things should sound like or how to go about finding the best sources is severely compromised.
And why was the individual saying that the colors were worse than usual at the TCM showing?
Sound is 5.1 DTS HD Master Audio or 4.0 Dolby Surround.-Does this equate to the 6 track original?
‘All 70mm/35mm prints are archived, including audio tracks and separation negatives. Release on home video is at the discretion of the copyright holders.’
I’m not annoyed at you Cinema70 but I’m pretty annoyed that a great opportunity was thrown away and I would have known nothing if I hadn’t happened upon it on a theater chat site.
‘All 70mm/35mm prints are archived, including audio tracks and separation negatives. Release on home video is at the discretion of the copyright holders.’
Big deal. What difference does it make if the copyright owners have no interest in properly restoring the 70m version and making it available to the public?
This bluray and the TCM showing were clearly deceptive.
It’s really the anniversary of the general release which would be what year?
Nice packaging for a shoddy product.
And the reviewer of the bluray.com review should be ashamed of himself for not pointing this out.
I just perused the bluray.com review. Yes the high definition is the general release version so I would assume it comes from a 35mm print. It does not mention coming from the Todd AO print. The roadshow is a supplement in SD with the additional sequences in noticeably poorer quality.
I don’t know what happened to the print you saw. Or the print I saw. But all the executives at Fox should be flayed. They sure did not give it the attention it deserved. I should have read the review more clearly the first time. I would have never gotten the blu ray. There seems to be no reason for this but cost cutting.
I found this out on a theater chat site. Somebody asked if anybody went(I myself was not even aware of it.)
They asked what was shown: general release or roadshow? Somebody who went responded the blu ray of the general release version. So it could have been a 2k or 4k scan. This wasn’t specified. They said the colors looked even worse on the screen. That should not have been the case with a properly scanned print.
I have the blu ray which I haven’t even opened yet. I’ve just assumed it was a 4k restoration of the Todd AO roadshow original. I’ll be pretty annoyed if it’s not. I saw it in'78 in Todd AO at the Warner Cinerama and though the print was somewhat worn it was tremendous.
And that sound! Good lord it had you pinned to the back of the theater. I mean that in a positive way not a headache inducing let the entire multiplex hear modern way.
As per the Nickelodeon ad by Nyer this was to be the Music hall Christmas film but was not ready in time for the Nov opening.
TSATR set for the Easter show was then moved up. Only time I sprung for mezz tickets.
Sorry-Alien.
No. The only second run I remember seeing was Superman when it moved over from its long first run at the Astor Plaza. Then I saw Aliens which was the last film I saw there before it was twinned.
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Looks like the red neon frame on the marquee was still up at this point for Willard before they got rid of the neon and replaced it with silver aluminum. This means I saw it but had forgotten. It looked great surrounded by the Bond’s neon. And with the Gordon’s Gin spectacular above it was the last of the old great Times Square blocks.
Believe it or not I heard two different people in the late 70s/early 80s when I was walking on the opposite side of the street when they saw the decrepit disrepair the site was in say ‘I never thought I’d see that block look like that.’ I myself would have loved to be going to the Criterion during the roadshow era. Just the marquee announcing some big buget epic or musical must have been exciting.
I know they are listing Music Hall bookings but it is amazing there are so many other wonderful Selznick films of the period. Do not underestimate the power of Benzedrine. Though I think those pills ultimately ruined his health they allowed him super human energy.
Was The Robe CinemaScope screen wide enough to stretch beyond the sides of the proscenium or was it the same screen to be used for the CinemaScope films that played along with a stage show and had to be raised into the flies above?
Amazingly Makas was still the Hall’s pianist in the 70s at which point the 50s might as well have been the Jurassic era. It certainly was to me.
So obviously a big miss with its paper mache sets, very miscast leading lady and cut songs. And right on the heels of the huge unexpected success of Seven Brides which looked even worse but had an ideal cast, much better choreography, a tight book and a sensational director coming into his own. As the big summer film the Hall knew Seven Brides was the winner.
I never saw a non 70mm film either genuine or blow up at the Rivoli. When showing a Panavision 35mm print like Jaws did they fill the curved Todd AO screen with the image or was it projected with borders making the screen smaller?
If there ever was a Music Hall film Magnificent Ambersons was it. But like Kane Radio City passed because of Rockefeller ties to Hearst?
The above picture seems like the early 70s when the film was re-released yet the artwork is the original.
In New York the re-release used new artwork. So what year was the picture taken?
Warren G. Harris has an impressive list of books on Amazon. Seems to be a major Hollywood golden age historian.
Was the Hawaii billboard picture taken down?
That’s pretty good considering it pretty much died as a roadshow in NY.
It made it to September reserved seats? How long did it last at the Warner in NY?
Allora perche la pubblicita' e' in inglese?(tranne ‘parlato in italiano’)
If you look at the two links the one in in 2006 the entire roadshow print was restored:
‘FotoKem Restores “South Pacific”
“Bigfoot” Scanner Restores 65mm Classic to Better Than Original Condition with 14 Minutes of Lost Footage’
But at the second link the AFI print was 157 minutes.
The current Bluray and TCM showing completely ignore the restoration as if it never happened. So did it? And if so why is that not acknowledged? What happened to it?
I should also say that as a record collector from way back the current young people who run companies sometimes have no idea what they are doing(not always.) They ruin older recordings with compression or brightening or they do not find the best sources for a reissue.
Not having been around way back when their sense of what things should sound like or how to go about finding the best sources is severely compromised.
If they restored the master why is it in SD?
And what did HowardBHaas see at AFI?
And why was the individual saying that the colors were worse than usual at the TCM showing?
Sound is 5.1 DTS HD Master Audio or 4.0 Dolby Surround.-Does this equate to the 6 track original?
‘All 70mm/35mm prints are archived, including audio tracks and separation negatives. Release on home video is at the discretion of the copyright holders.’
What about what Cinema70 wrote?
Nothing is adding up.
I’m not annoyed at you Cinema70 but I’m pretty annoyed that a great opportunity was thrown away and I would have known nothing if I hadn’t happened upon it on a theater chat site.
‘All 70mm/35mm prints are archived, including audio tracks and separation negatives. Release on home video is at the discretion of the copyright holders.’
Big deal. What difference does it make if the copyright owners have no interest in properly restoring the 70m version and making it available to the public? This bluray and the TCM showing were clearly deceptive. It’s really the anniversary of the general release which would be what year? Nice packaging for a shoddy product. And the reviewer of the bluray.com review should be ashamed of himself for not pointing this out.
Is this a part documentary/part fiction full length film that played with a stage show?
I just perused the bluray.com review. Yes the high definition is the general release version so I would assume it comes from a 35mm print. It does not mention coming from the Todd AO print. The roadshow is a supplement in SD with the additional sequences in noticeably poorer quality.
I don’t know what happened to the print you saw. Or the print I saw. But all the executives at Fox should be flayed. They sure did not give it the attention it deserved. I should have read the review more clearly the first time. I would have never gotten the blu ray. There seems to be no reason for this but cost cutting.
I found this out on a theater chat site. Somebody asked if anybody went(I myself was not even aware of it.)
They asked what was shown: general release or roadshow? Somebody who went responded the blu ray of the general release version. So it could have been a 2k or 4k scan. This wasn’t specified. They said the colors looked even worse on the screen. That should not have been the case with a properly scanned print.
I have the blu ray which I haven’t even opened yet. I’ve just assumed it was a 4k restoration of the Todd AO roadshow original. I’ll be pretty annoyed if it’s not. I saw it in'78 in Todd AO at the Warner Cinerama and though the print was somewhat worn it was tremendous.
And that sound! Good lord it had you pinned to the back of the theater. I mean that in a positive way not a headache inducing let the entire multiplex hear modern way.