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Joe Vogel commented about Mason Theatre on Jan 11, 2005 at 9:40 am

There is a web page with lots of information about the Mason Opera House, including a couple of photographs and a link to a fairly large scale map of the block it was on, showing the size of the building (which turns out to be larger than I had thought it was- the foyer and lobby ran back more than 150 feet from Broadway before reaching the auditorium entrance.)

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Joe Vogel commented about Byrd Theatre on Jan 10, 2005 at 9:03 am

What a splendid survivor this theater is! And what an excellent web site its operators have provided, so that those of us who live in places where theaters such as this no longer exist, or never did, can get a glimpse of what a functioning movie palace that is properly cared for can still be. The citizens of Richmond are very fortunate not to have lost this treasure.

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Joe Vogel commented about T & D Theatre on Jan 10, 2005 at 8:34 am

Somewhere on the Internet, I came across a picture of the lobby of the Raymond which shows the lower sections of the ramps. Once you get near the side walls of the building, the ramps curve sharply, loop around, and emerge at the upper level. I’ll try to hunt the picture down again- I might even have it copied somewhere on my hard drive, but I can’t remember where.

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Joe Vogel commented about T & D Theatre on Jan 9, 2005 at 7:34 pm

It’s interesting that this theater had a ramp to the balcony. The only theater I’ve ever been to which had ramps instead of stairs leading to the balcony is the Raymond, in Pasadena. I had thought it was unique in having that feature.

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Joe Vogel commented about Banner Theatre on Jan 9, 2005 at 9:12 am

I first saw the Admiral sometime soon after 1960, but I can’t recall if it was north of the Regent. It seems, in my hazy memory, to have been farther south. It was a grind house, and I don’t think it was included in the newspaper theater listings. I don’t remember ever seeing a theater called the Main.

I still can’t picture the Banner, at all, so I’m thinking that it might have been one of those theaters like the Optic and the Art, which had no marquee to speak of. I do remember the Admiral having a marquee of about the same size as that of the Regent. If I saw a photograph of the Banner, it would probably jog my memory.

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Joe Vogel commented about Riviera Theater on Jan 9, 2005 at 8:54 am

Ah, the location link for this theater says “Avalon, Catalina Island” and that for the Avalon simply says “Catalina Island,” so they don’t both share an “Avalon, California” listing page.

I didn’t know that there was a theater in El Encanto, either. Was it only used for stage productions?

I have a cousin who spent several years of her childhood in Avalon. Next time I’m in touch with her, I’ll ask her about the Riviera. I doubt that she’d know whether or not it was originally the Strand, though, as she wasn’t born until 1933 or 1934. She might have been too young to have known anything about the theater which presumably became the Post Office, either, but I’ll ask her about that, too. She’d probably at least remember where the Post Office was in those days.

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Joe Vogel commented about Riviera Theater on Jan 9, 2005 at 12:17 am

I have found that there is a reference to a Strand Theater in Avalon, being re-opened after improvements, in the L.A. Times issue of January 15th, 1922. No address is given.

There is also an article in Southwest Builder and Contractor of December 12th, 1924, saying that architects (Walter I.) Webber, (William F.) Staunton and (Sumner Maurice) Spaulding had prepared plans for a 600 seat theater to be erected in Avalon. Neither name nor location is given. However, a librarians note on this card says that this is believed to be the building which, after the opening of the Casino and its theater, was converted into the Post Office.

The Casino, opened in 1930, was itself designed by Webber and Spaulding. I don’t know if they were responsible for the interior of the movie theatre which was (and is, though I believe it is currently closed) on the ground floor of that massive landmark, but they probably were. Their firm did quite a bit of work at Catalina in those days.

My mother, though she lived in Avalon for a couple of years in the 1930s, has no memory of the Riviera Theater, or any theater on the island, other than the Casino. (It seems as though a second theater would be hard not to notice in such a small town, but maybe it was closed for a while in those years.)

In any case, I’m wondering if the Riviera might be the Strand, renamed. It might be possible to find an old postcard view of Avalon showing the theatre. There are usually quite a few Catalina cards on display in the postcard auction section of e-Bay. Avalon was, for decades, one of the most photographed places in California, and hundreds of different postcard views of it were published, and they sold in vast numbers.

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Joe Vogel commented about Banner Theatre on Jan 8, 2005 at 8:08 am

Was this theater still called by this name in the 1960s? It would have been right down the block form the Regent, the only Main Street theatre I ever attended, but I have no memory of the Banner. I do remember that there was a theatre called the Admiral, AKA Rector’s Admiral, on the east side of Main somewhere between the Regent and the Burbank. Could the Banner and the Admiral have been the same theatre? I was less familiar with Main Street than with the streets farther west, as Main Street was already pretty gritty, even in those days. There might have been a second theatre on that stretch of the street, but I can’t bring the image of it to mind.

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Joe Vogel commented about State Theatre on Jan 8, 2005 at 7:51 am

Here is a biographical sketch of Lotta Crabtree, at a web site devoted to San Francisco history. I remember seeing the small but ornate fountain which she donated to the city in 1875, and which still stands on a triangle of land where Market, Geary and Kearney Streets intersect.

Though born in New York City, in 1847, she spent most of her childhood in the Sierra mining town of Grass Valley, only a few dozen miles from where I live. One of California’s most colorful golden era characters, she went on to become, in the late 19th century, one of the most successful performers on the New York stage. She retired at the age of 45, living first in rural New Jersey and then, after the death of her mother, in Boston. Upon her death at the age of 76, Boston newpapers reported that her extensive real estate holdings had made her the city’s second largest taxpayer.

Wise in her investments, she died in 1924, leaving much of her considerable fortune to benefit disabled WWI veterans, and some for animal welfare, destitute thespians, and discharged convicts. A considerable, but undisclosed, amount of her fortune remains today in the Lotta Agricultural Trust Fund, which provides loans to New England farmers. (See the “New Standard: 1/28/98” link on the page at the link above.)

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Joe Vogel commented about Ravenna Theatre on Jan 8, 2005 at 7:02 am

A search on 233 N. Vermont at Terraserver fetches a recent aerial view of the area, and there are no buildings that resemble a theater (at least from directly above) there today. The shadow of that pitched roof on the front of the building would surely show in an aerial view. I think that this theatre must have been demolished.

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Joe Vogel commented about World Theatre on Jan 8, 2005 at 6:49 am

Yes. The card with the reference to the wedding apparently had a misspelling of the name. It is Chotiner, rather than Chotner. All the other cards with references to the Chotiner family at the site are spelled correctly.

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Joe Vogel commented about Montalban Theatre on Jan 8, 2005 at 1:39 am

Christian:

I think that the Music Box had become the Pix Theatre by the 1950s, and was showing movies. I think it most likely that the last two seasons of the Lux program were broadcast from the KNX studios on Sunset Boulevard.

I have a vague memory of some mention of a CBS Playhouse being located in the Sunset Boulevard facility. It was somewhere in the History of KNX section of the station’s web site. I think it was a caption to one of the pictures there (reached by a small link near the top of that page.) There is also one good photograph of the Vine Street Theater there, and another which I think is of the Music Box, but the captions of both refer to them as the CBS Playhouse.

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Joe Vogel commented about World Theatre on Jan 8, 2005 at 1:21 am

Sue:

A search on “Calhoun” and “Alice” (one name in each of the first two search boxes) at the L.A. Public Library’s California Index fetches 11 scanned index cards (I’m presuming that the actual items these cards reference are available at the library itself, probably the central library downtown) with references to her. According to one, she is indeed silent film star Alice Beatrice Calhoun (1904-1966), and another card refers to an article in the Hollywood Citizen of January 5th, 1927, announcing her marriage to M.C. Chotner, who I know was himself the owner of several theatres in the Los Angeles area. Many of them are listed here at Cinema Treasures, but I can’t remember their names offhand.

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Joe Vogel commented about Showcase Cinema I & II on Jan 4, 2005 at 12:17 am

Stonewood Center is at the northeast corner of Firestone and Lakewood, about a half mile east of Downey’s old downtown. It was an open air shopping center when it was built in 1958, and became an enclosed mall when it was expanded in 1990. My Google search turned up a Lynn’s Hallmark Card and Party Shop for the address 136 Stonewood, though George Redfox says there is a fabric shop in the theatre’s old location. There is a JoAnn’s Fabrics at the center, in a building with an outside entrance, not on the mall proper, but I can’t find an exact address for it. I remember the theatre being in such a peripheral building, so that must be it. I think that addresses may have been shuffled in the expansion.

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Joe Vogel commented about Ambassador Hotel Theatre on Jan 3, 2005 at 11:47 pm

I’ve been having the same problem with it. I think that the collection has only recently been added to the college web site, and they probably don’t have the kinks worked out yet.

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Joe Vogel commented about Miramar Theatre on Jan 3, 2005 at 11:21 pm

The Hidalgo/Miramar is probably the theatre designed by Clifford Balch, the plans for which were announced in the July 2, 1937 issue of Southwest Builder and Contractor. Balch designed a large number of theaters in the Spanish Colonial/Mission Revival styles in that era.

I don’t believe that The Casino Capistrano was ever a movie theater. It was a multi-purpose community building, built by the developers as an inducement to attract residential property buyers. I know that it was used as a ballroom for many years. Even in the early picture of it on this page of the San Clemente web site, it is topped by a sign reading “DANCE.” There is no marquee visible on the building.

My grandfather had a vacation house in an area about midway between Capistrano and San Clemente, and from my visits to the town in the 1950s, I know that it had only this one theatre.

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Joe Vogel commented about Showcase Cinema I & II on Jan 3, 2005 at 10:27 pm

I have a copy of the Los Angeles Times theatre listings from February of 1973, and at that time the Showcase was apparently still a single screen house, as no second screen is listed. I remember Stonewood Mall itself having been built in the 1950s. I think the theatre dates from the same time.

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Joe Vogel commented about Montalban Theatre on Jan 1, 2005 at 9:00 am

Thanks, Ken. I went to a few movies at the Music Box in the 1960s, when it was called the Pix Theatre. Then, I had no idea that it had had such a long and varied career.

I also remember passing by the Huntington Hartford, and having no idea what was under that modern facade. Until recently, I was under the impression that it had actually been built from the ground up by Hartford in the 1950s.

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Joe Vogel commented about Montalban Theatre on Jan 1, 2005 at 8:23 am

Ken:

Do you happen to know the years during which the Lux Radio Theater was broadcast from the old Music Box (now Henry Fonda) Theater on Hollywood Boulevard? I know that the show started in New York City, then moved to Hollywood, where it was broadcast both from the CBS Playhouse and the Music Box, but I don’t know which theater was used first, or for how long each was used.

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Joe Vogel commented about Ambassador Hotel Theatre on Jan 1, 2005 at 8:11 am

You can find some pictures of some of Hunt’s other buildings, particularly his work at Occidental College, online in the Robert Winter Collection, which is maintained by Occidental. Their campus, located in the Eagle Rock district of Los Angeles, is worth a visit, too.

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Joe Vogel commented about Patterson Performing Arts Center on Jan 1, 2005 at 7:10 am

The Patterson is no longer closed. It re-opened on May 16th, 2003, as an arts center and theater operated by Creative Alliance

Their web site describes the facility as providing two galleries, a 250 seat flexible theater, a classroom, media lab, offices, and live/work studios for artists. The address is now given as 3134 Eastern Avenue, Baltimore MD 21224, and the telephone number as 410-276-1651. Their e-mail address is

The web site’s brief history of the theater says that there was an earlier Patterson Theater built at the same location in 1910, which was demolished in 1929. The current building was opened in September, 1930, twinned in 1975, and closed in 1995. When opened in 1929, the Patterson was operated by the Grand Theater Company, an affiliate of Durkee Enterprises. The history page also mentions the marquee and the art deco sign, lighted by “a plethora of bulbs,” but it appears to be referring to the blade sign only. At least that feature was able to be saved and restored.

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Joe Vogel commented about Montalban Theatre on Dec 31, 2004 at 7:47 pm

I have run across mentions of S. Charles Lee having remodeled a “Studio Theater” on Vine Street in 1936, but thought they were mistaken, because there was a Studio Theatre on Hollywood Boulevard. This clears up the mystery.

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Joe Vogel commented about Optic Theater in Downtown Los Angeles Circa 1913 on Dec 31, 2004 at 9:15 am

I’ve never seen a picture of Mr. Woodley (Frank Erwin Woodley was his full name, I believe, and he was born in 1865, so he would have been the right age to be balding), but I can easily imagine any exhibitor of the day jumping at the chance to be in a movie. Think of the talk it would generate among the theatre’s patrons, and their friends and acquaintances, and the consequent increase in business!

It’s undoubtedly difficult to spot specific locations of the city in old movies, not only because of the way the movie scenes were shot out of sequence, but because so many places in Los Angeles looked so much like so many other places in Los Angeles. So much of the city was built over such a short time that all the buildings ended up being in designed in the same few styles.

Maybe someday you’ll run across an identified interior photograph of that theatre in “Career” and recognize it.

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Joe Vogel commented about Ambassador Hotel Theatre on Dec 31, 2004 at 8:45 am

Christian:

The only old pictures I’ve seen of the Vine Street Theater (all exterior shots, unfortunately) are those few in the L.A. Public Library photo database. (Click on the “Photo Collection” link, use the search terms “Theater Vine Street” and choose the search type “Subject Headings” from the menu. That brings up nine pictures. Some are of the building while under construction, some after completion.

I also know that the first alteration to the Vine Street Theater came as early as 1936, when S. Charles Lee designed a new marquee, and new heating and ventilating systems were installed. Lee sometimes did sketches of buildings to which he made alterations. If he made any of the Vine STreet, then they would probably be in the collection of his drawings and papers which, I believe, is held by UCLA. Since he made a major change only to the outside of this theater, though, he might not have bothered to make any interior sketches.

When Huntington Hartford bought the place in the 1950s, the remodeling he ordered was so complete that almost nothing remained of the original theatre but the outer walls. There are probably photographs of the old interior somewhere in the world- in old magazines and such, perhaps- but I have no idea where to find them.

The place also went by the name Mirror Theater for a while, but I don’t know if that was before or after it was the Huntington Hartford Theater. If it was earlier, then pictures of it from before the rebuilding might be sought out by that name as well as by the original name.

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Joe Vogel commented about Rosemead 4 Cinemas on Dec 29, 2004 at 9:01 pm

I remember when the book store moved from it’s original location on the northwest corner of Garfield and Main into the building that had once been half of Montgomery Ward’s Department Store. (The other half of Ward’s had been in the building with the small art deco tower on it, one door to the west, which later was renovated and occupied by Prober’s Shoes.) They had the biggest selection of paperbacks in the San Gabriel Valley after they moved to the new location. The place was huge.

The book store opened in its original location about 1964 or 1965, and was owned by the people who had formerly operated the Bungalow News on Colorado Boulevard in Pasadena. The store had been busier when it was at the corner of Garfield, even though the new location was bigger. I think they made a mistake by moving it. That mid-block location at the east end of town wasn’t as visible. They probably weren’t helped by the opening of a Waldenbooks on the Mervyn’s center in the early 1980s, either.